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Proposed Town Ordinance - PB 003

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:15 am
by Gloria
Control of Bloodstone Ring Ordinance - PB 003

The manufacture, sale, importation, and gifting of bloodstone rings is hereby banned throughout the lands. There is no ban for the use or possession of bloodstone rings.

This ordinance will take effect immediately upon enactment, if enacted. This ordinance may be repealed or amended by any ballot measure where the question is the repeal or amendment of this ordinance, provided a 2/3 majority ‘yes’ vote. The mayor, fen president, sheriff, and town deputies, as well as other officers have the ability to enforce the ordinance by appropriate and lawful means.

The fen president (and other officers) may not veto this ordinance.

(This is #470 in the ballot office.)

Gloria's Comments on PB 003

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:31 am
by Gloria
Hi,

I proposed this ordinance because bloodstone rings, as an element of the dark blood magic, interfere with the ability of healers to heal the wounds of blood magicians. We have all seen blood magicians cutting themselves around town and other places. This is not only bad for the Body, but also the Spirit. Healers, as practising the virtue of Spiritual Enlightenment, can heal the Body and Spirit of blood magicians. But some blood magicians resist this healing, and insist on a dangerous and risky behaviour by using bloodstone rings.

This ordinance is intended to gradually implement stopping the use of bloodstone rings. It is meant to slowly phase out their use. There is no ban or punishment for having or using one even if the ordinance is enacted. Everyone who has one can keep using it as they have been. This will simply stop new ones from being made or old ones from being distributed.

Thanks for your support! Vote for PB 003! Together we can make a safer Puddleby!

Re: Proposed Town Ordinance - PB 003

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:09 am
by Cecil
You can't save those who want to be saved. You are taking the townsfolk rights by doing this. Not that I am complaining, but what gives you the right to go around touching people with your moonstone without asking them just cause they look a little under the weather? That's an invasion of privacy if you ask me! If the Bloodmages wanna go around bleeding all over the place, let them. They just gotta make sure to clean up after themselves :P

Re: Proposed Town Ordinance - PB 003

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:49 pm
by Largo
Going to go ahead and veto this.

Re: Proposed Town Ordinance - PB 003

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:50 pm
by Largo
Especially the part that says I can't veto it. Vetoing that big time.

Re: Proposed Town Ordinance - PB 003

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:32 pm
by Gloria
If you want to really have a veto power, I would suggest proposing a piece of legislation about it, get it in the ballot office, and get a simple majority to support it. Specifically the last part should read that the legislation can never be amended (or require a unanimous vote to amend or something hard). So if some point in the future I propose an ordinance and you have this veto power in place, the part I might include about the ordinance not being subject to veto would constitute an amendment of your power, and if you had stated in your legislation outlining your power that your power couldn't be amended, then I couldn't shield my proposal from your veto.

Re: Proposed Town Ordinance - PB 003

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:29 pm
by Sareth
I'll vote in favor of whoever offers me the best bribe! Now taking offers...

Re: Proposed Town Ordinance - PB 003

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:48 am
by Gil-Galad
I vote that Largo can veto and also vote to make a automatic veto of any ideas Gloria comes up with.

Re: Proposed Town Ordinance - PB 003

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:00 am
by Aldernon
Sareth wrote:I'll vote in favor of whoever offers me the best bribe! Now taking offers...
I recommend voting in my favor...
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I bet you can figure out why...
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If not...ask Trihn :twisted:

Re: Proposed Town Ordinance - PB 003

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:36 am
by Cinnamon
Largo doesn't need support for his Veto. By defintion that's what a Veto is. He holds the highest office in the lands.
All he needs is this:
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Re: Proposed Town Ordinance - PB 003

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:07 pm
by Sareth
Aldernon wrote:
Sareth wrote:I'll vote in favor of whoever offers me the best bribe! Now taking offers...
I recommend voting in my favor...
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I bet you can figure out why...
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If not...ask Trihn :twisted:
But I've been offered a kiss and a cookie, cousin! That's pretty appealing...

Re: Proposed Town Ordinance - PB 003

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:09 am
by Fishylish
Is it a wuv cookie though, Sareth? You have to be careful!

Anyways, I support this because I want to do something illegal. And if this passes, I will promptly deny ever saying that.

Re: Proposed Town Ordinance - PB 003

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:15 pm
by Gloria
Thanks for your support Fishylish!! I also want to point out the protections that PB 003 offers to current holders of bloodstone rings. The proposal specifically states that there is no ban for the use or possession of bloodstone rings. If this passes, and someone were to try to ban the use or possession of the rings in the future, they would need a 2/3 majority approval because it would constitute amending PB 003.

Re: Proposed Town Ordinance - PB 003

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:55 pm
by Lightbringer
I <3 Legislation Lord.

Re: Proposed Town Ordinance - PB 003

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:44 pm
by Sareth
A wuv cookie?

Well... Hrm...

It does come with a kiss. Think it'd be worth it?