Book 2 Trip - around Tsrrin

[InuTeisei]

I was also able to use a rather esoteric skill to allow latecomers to join the group in the deeper Pitch caves directly. I hope they helped make the trip a success. These mercenaries demanded advance payment to help us, and I paid their outrageous fee of 10,000 coins myself to hasten them along. I will be happily accepting donations to make up this cost, if you feel the trip was worth something to you.

Asenath

First off thank you!
Second, Daimoth said:

K'vynn thinks, "Daimoth says, "I'll go and bring my associates if you donate 10,000 coins to my cause." K'vynn asks, "what kind of cause do you have Daimoth?" Daimoth says, "Paying for the library." Daimoth says, "I'll bring my compatriots if you fill my purse.""

Daimoth thinks, "At least I'm providing a service."

Daimoth thinks, "Oh Asenath paid up."

Daimoth thinks, "We're not pirates"

Daimoth thinks, "What's the quickest route to EP4?"

... snip ...

Daimoth thinks, "So the portal is definitely closed? Might be able to run past necromancer if it's still up..."

Daimoth thinks, "Trapped somewhere on EP4. The portal is dead though, so we can't join PC anyway."

... snip ...

Daimoth thinks, "Well since we really couldn't help we'll be refunding Asenath's coins (UNLIKE PIRATES). Glad you guys made it though."

I would see Daimoth about the coins!

[Skirwan]

These mercenaries demanded advance payment to help us, and I paid their outrageous fee of 10,000 coins myself to hasten them along. I will be happily accepting donations to make up this cost, if you feel the trip was worth something to you.

Since Daimoth incorporated never actually made it there -- hardly surprising, since it turns out they didn't have a PI key and didn't actually know the way to the portal -- it seems to me that a refund should be in order.

[Yor]

First off I am very sorry to you Fafnir, I did not think we could afford a side trip to book 1, how wrong I was. I will be organizing another trip in a few months, as it took me a while to raise the funds for this trip. Again I thank you for your help and I am very sorry Gustave & StoneHand were left behind.

I learned quite a bit on this trip, but nowhere near enough to even think of leading one. I will organize another, but I will depend on the leadership of our experienced exiles to actually lead the trip.

Secondly, I wish to thank everyone who donated to the trip. Our great mystics were very appreciative of your support. I didn't coin this amount by myself, not by a long shot. I relied on the generous support of so many exiles who donated coins by the hundreds and even thousands in some cases. Yes the tip was big.

Thirdly, I am quite grateful to the support of the very experienced exiles, without whose help we would have never made it. I thought for a while I was wasting everyone's time with this trip, but we managed to have a break in I think PC8 and were able to raise all but the badly fallen. I am sorry that Baffina & Kvynn had to depart as they both were looking forward to training Book2.

Fourthly, I wish to thank everyone who was able to make it or tried to come (but had ooc stuff come up at the last minute). If anyone else can suggest a better time that is better suited for all who need Book2 please let me know. I will be happy to organize another trip, I just need a few ooc months to raise the funds. Also for the next trip, I will be hiring a couple of lib horus and paying for about 10 RHPs in advance.

Finally, I owe a few healers some RHPs (actually I am compensating in coins).
Kitlin (contacted), Suu'ub III (2), Retolyk, J'jh, Talin.

Once again, thank you all for supporting this double overtime trip!!

I just wanted to congratulate Inu and everybody on the success. Reaching book 2 is no small feat. Great Job!

Yor

[Torin]

If anyone else can suggest a better time that is better suited for all who need Book2 please let me know.

I think that time slot is pretty near perfect. Any big trip should be on a weekend. The starting time was good for US and Europe. (It's amazing that Mujin-kun and Sarah made it, as it was a 3:30 AM start in Japan.) If you start much earlier, you would be asking US Pacific people to wake up early. If you start much later, the Euros will have to stay up late. You could do it on a Saturday, but you would be asking many people to give up other Saturday night activities.

[Daimoth]

Since Daimoth incorporated never actually made it there -- hardly surprising, since it turns out they didn't have a PI key and didn't actually know the way to the portal -- it seems to me that a refund should be in order.

Since you were too busy tantruming openly on the sunstone to actually assist, we did get a key (thanks to geotzou.), and we did make it to where the portal should've been, but it'd long since disappeared. Leaving only a burn mark.

We did everything in our power to reach the portal despite no one telling us where it was, and also despite multiple super Necromancers about, and made it there in the absolute minimum amount of time thanks largely to the luck of stumbling across it as I checked almost the entirety of EP4.

Ironically, the lack of aid is mainly to attribute to those like Skirwan, who have to moan about the exact procedure used to help people before storming off to the library in a tizzy huff. Thanks to Megami, Ansset, Sonnydh(sp?) and a couple others for actually making Asenath's sacrifice worth something, rather than those who just basically threw it down the drain.

At any rate, and despite our best efforts, a full refund will be given to Asenath. We certainly are not pirates, merely profiteers. Keep your nonsense (communism) to yourself, Skirwan.

Myself and my associates are glad you all made it successfully.

[Skirwan]

Ironically, the lack of aid is mainly to attribute to those like Skirwan, who have to moan about the exact procedure used to help people before storming off to the library in a tizzy huff.

The fact is, I came out of the library to help after hearing there was an EP trip in the works, and only decided not to join after witnessing your efforts to make the trip a commercial venture.

Nonetheless, after you made it clear you had neither the means nor the know-how to accomplish the mission for which you were so handsomely payed, I quite politely volunteered to sell you passage into the PI interior and directions through the EP, for the astoundingly low price of half what you charged Asenath. Seeing as I actually had the ability to follow through on my offer, that seems an eminently reasonable offer.

Of course, had you not made the entire outing a transparent grab for cash, I would have not only opened the PI door and provided directions, I would have come along to help. I'm always willing to help out a fellow Puddlebean (except Zynx), but if the 'leader' of the group that needs help has already turned a profit, I'll expect to get my cut too.

I certainly hope that the next time any of my fellow Puddlebeans comes upon Daimoth in need they charge him appropriately.

(I also hope all the likely voters in the upcoming Fen Presidential election witnessed Largo's deplorable antics as he sycophantically supported Daimoth in his hands-on investigation of the karmic cycle. Vote Stylunk!)

[Largo]

(I also hope all the likely voters in the upcoming Fen Presidential election witnessed Largo's deplorable antics as he sycophantically supported Daimoth in his hands-on investigation of the karmic cycle. Vote Stylunk!)

Nonsense. I simply wanted to join them in the ethereal plane to help my fellow exiles. I certainly didn't benefit from any ill-gotten funds. Vote Largo!

[Skirwan]

(I also hope all the likely voters in the upcoming Fen Presidential election witnessed Largo's deplorable antics as he sycophantically supported Daimoth in his hands-on investigation of the karmic cycle. Vote Stylunk!)

Nonsense. I simply wanted to join them in the ethereal plane to help my fellow exiles. I certainly didn't benefit from any ill-gotten funds. Vote Largo!

So you knew that Daimoth was paid 10k for the trip, and didn't even ask for a cut? It's that sort of fiscal irresponsibility that led to the current Puddlebean financial crisis.

Largo doesn't care about coins -- he's just spending other People's money. Vote Stylunk!

[Cinnamon]

I certainly hope that the next time any of my fellow Puddlebeans comes upon Daimoth in need they charge him appropriately.

Considering all the fun I've had with and help I've received from Daimoth I'm not likely to charge him for anything. On the other hand, Skirwan has done little to nothing to enhance my in-game CL experience.


Rather amusing that you're happy to help until you learn someone else has a deal in place. Then you change your motivation. Cheated yourself out of a fun hunt. You could have been paid in your stated preferred coin, a fun hunt. In the end you didn't get the coins or the fun. Could you please post a photo, I'm curious to see what you look like without a nose.

[Yor]

I certainly hope that the next time any of my fellow Puddlebeans comes upon Daimoth in need they charge him appropriately.

Come to think of it Daimoth has tagged along on several PAG hunts in the past which provided him entertainment and experience. I've been in touch with the PAG Board of Directors and we've agreed that 500c per hunt is reasonable. Our records indicate that he's been present on our hunts 14 times which comes to 7,000 coins. Please make payment to the nearest PAG representative at your soonest convenience.

And for future reference the following services rendered by Yor Inc. to any self-proclaimed privateers will cost as follows:

Chaining: 300c
Hunt tagging-along: 1000c
Use of PI Key: 500c
EP directions: 750c
Rescue duties: 2,500c
Leadership duties: 5,000c

I'm am not a pirate. I am merely a privateer. Plus, a Zo needs to feed his family.

Yor

[Skirwan]

Rather amusing that you're happy to help until you learn someone else has a deal in place.

Daimoth has shown us that he doesn't want to be part of the happiness-hand-holding-rainbows-and-sunshine collective that we call the Puddleby community. I don't begrudge him that; in fact, more power to him. But he doesn't get to opt out of 'helping people' part while still enjoying the 'being helped' element.

If you wanna be a chump, go for it. I give not to those who don't but take.

(There oughta be a name for this phenomenon, what with it being so tragically common...)

[Cinnamon]

If you wanna be a chump, go for it.

Let me make sure I have my facts straight.

You're a community minded guy. You like to help folks. If you were able to, you'd have helped with the Book 2 Trip.
Daimoth was commissioned for umpteen coins to help with the Book 2 Trip.
You're a community minded guy. You like to help folks. You found out that folks needed EP help to meet up with the Book 2 Trip. You came out to help.
You found out that Daimoth was in it for pay and you wanted your cut. I think you're asking for 50%, the numbers don't matter. It's not being a chump that matters.
Daimoth wouldn't meet your price. You walked away. You're not a chump. You're a community minded guy. You like to help folks, but if he gets his, you want your for helping him.

[Skirwan]

If you wanna be a chump, go for it.

Let me make sure I have my facts straight.

Seriously, what are the chances of that?

[Cinnamon]

If you wanna be a chump, go for it.

Let me make sure I have my facts straight.

Seriously, what are the chances of that?

You tell me...

You're a community minded guy. You like to help folks. If you were able to, you'd have helped with the Book 2 Trip.
Daimoth was commissioned for umpteen coins to help with the Book 2 Trip.
You're a community minded guy. You like to help folks. You found out that folks needed EP help to meet up with the Book 2 Trip. You came out to help.
You found out that Daimoth was in it for pay and you wanted your cut. I think you're asking for 50%, the numbers don't matter. It's not being a chump that matters.
Daimoth wouldn't meet your price. You walked away. You're not a chump. You're a community minded guy. You like to help folks, but if he gets his, you want your for helping him.

[Skirwan]

Let me make sure I have my facts straight.

Seriously, what are the chances of that?

You tell me...

Well, historical performance is not a guarantee of future results, but I'm gonna go with 'slim to none'. That's my final answer, Regia.