Second chance at circle test for double KO

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Second chance at circle test for double KO

Post by Sonny_Bill » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:19 am

What do others think about the idea of a second chance at the circle test if it's a double KO?

I've been in the following situation quite a few times, but today I was in the zone and almost passed a level that somebody with my level of ranks has no right to pass:
Cerberal says, "Most who passed were stronger than you."
You equip your bloodblade.
•You feel a surge of power as your blood pours down the blade.
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Honor yells, "Try again when you are a little stronger or wiser."
Technically I killed the Lava Beetle before it killed me (not sure how that happens but it can happen). When this kid of thing happens, it's usually because I'm in the zone. Having to wait another week can be painful because I 'passed' the test but it didn't count (due to the monster being able to attack after I've already killed it).

Next week I'll have lost my mojo and it could be some months before I find myself in this position again. I think it would be great if double KO's either counted as a 'victory' or counted as a 'no result' (allowing one to attempt the test again right away).

I realise this is a bit cheeky coming from a BM (because our 'last gasp' hits are ridiculously strong). However, I think it would be more fair than the current system where you can kill all the enemies and still fail.

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Re: Second chance at circle test for double KO

Post by Mac » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:46 am

Your quote is leaving out an important line:

"Honor says, 'Kill them all and live to pass the test.'"

If the circle tests are supposed to measure your relative strength, and you're out in the world solo, there's a pretty big difference between killing everything and living and killing everything but dying.

As to the suggestion of changing the passing requirement of tests... I don't really care if they're changed because circle tests (past 3rd and 4th) are basically meaningless. I'm not sure the GMs will want to spend their limited "GM time" on this kind of change though.

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Re: Second chance at circle test for double KO

Post by Kalian » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:07 am

Sonny_Bill wrote:What do others think about the idea of a second chance at the circle test if it's a double KO?

I've been in the following situation quite a few times, but today I was in the zone and almost passed a level that somebody with my level of ranks has no right to pass:
Cerberal says, "Most who passed were stronger than you."
You equip your bloodblade.
•You feel a surge of power as your blood pours down the blade.
* You cannot absorb creatures here.
You vanquished a Captured Banshee.
You vanquished a Captured Blood Wyrm.
Using /SHARE to create a spirit link to another exile may improve your chances of rescue. If you have given up all hope, use /DEPART.
You vanquished a Captured Lava Beetle.
• Your blood pours lifelessly from your body.
Sonny Bill has fallen to a Captured Lava Beetle.
Honor yells, "Regrettably, Sonny Bill, you have failed."
Honor yells, "Try again when you are a little stronger or wiser."
Technically I killed the Lava Beetle before it killed me (not sure how that happens but it can happen). When this kid of thing happens, it's usually because I'm in the zone. Having to wait another week can be painful because I 'passed' the test but it didn't count (due to the monster being able to attack after I've already killed it).

Next week I'll have lost my mojo and it could be some months before I find myself in this position again. I think it would be great if double KO's either counted as a 'victory' or counted as a 'no result' (allowing one to attempt the test again right away).

I realise this is a bit cheeky coming from a BM (because our 'last gasp' hits are ridiculously strong). However, I think it would be more fair than the current system where you can kill all the enemies and still fail.
No, wait a week like everyone else.

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Re: Second chance at circle test for double KO

Post by Daimoth » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:49 pm

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Re: Second chance at circle test for double KO

Post by Stinkfist » Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:59 pm

Nah. If that is the complete log, your attempt needs mo debuff and hemo use. hamstring + hemo = win all tests.

Win ALL TESTS.

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Re: Second chance at circle test for double KO

Post by Sonny_Bill » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:21 pm

Daimoth wrote:Train histia!
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Re: Second chance at circle test for double KO

Post by Icy » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:33 pm

This is dumb. I passed 8th on my BM with half as many ranks as my ranger still struggling on the test. Wait until you get lucky since it doesn't matter anyway and provides no benefit or detriment aside from bragging rights.
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Re: Second chance at circle test for double KO

Post by noivad » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:38 pm

Icy wrote:This is dumb. I passed 8th on my BM with half as many ranks as my ranger still struggling on the test. Wait until you get lucky since it doesn't matter anyway and provides no benefit or detriment aside from bragging rights.
Yeah, Icy is right. Circles after 4 don’t actually grant you anything other than the belt & title. Luck has a lot to do with the tests—like life: you have to be prepared & lucky.
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Re: Second chance at circle test for double KO

Post by Daimoth » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:06 pm

You know how you mitigate the effects of luck?




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Re: Second chance at circle test for double KO

Post by Zelkhorn » Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:12 am

Stinkfist wrote:Nah. If that is the complete log, your attempt needs mo debuff and hemo use. hamstring + hemo = win all tests.

Win ALL TESTS.
Pretty sure they killed hamstring's effectiveness in tests. Hemo is still a win button though.

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Re: Second chance at circle test for double KO

Post by Borzon » Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:50 pm

Zelkhorn wrote:
Stinkfist wrote:Nah. If that is the complete log, your attempt needs mo debuff and hemo use. hamstring + hemo = win all tests.

Win ALL TESTS.
Pretty sure they killed hamstring's effectiveness in tests. Hemo is still a win button though.
Aye, non of the debuffs work.

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Re: Second chance at circle test for double KO

Post by Killian » Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:41 pm

Borzon wrote:
Zelkhorn wrote:
Stinkfist wrote:Nah. If that is the complete log, your attempt needs mo debuff and hemo use. hamstring + hemo = win all tests.

Win ALL TESTS.
Pretty sure they killed hamstring's effectiveness in tests. Hemo is still a win button though.
Aye, non of the debuffs work.

When did this take place?? Had to be in the past 8 months or so. This breaks my heart. I have always noticed GM's changing things in the name of "fairness". But to change debuffs in tests that don't even matter...I feel like they want us to leave. pretty petty.


Edit. Just tested with Asmo, Hemo is the only thing that works.

I feel the only right thing to do is give up Asmodean's eighth circle badge. I thought I earned it. Guess I was wrong....GM's please remove my 8th badge. If this is how you feel then remove it please.
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Re: Second chance at circle test for double KO

Post by Daimoth » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:10 pm

Killian wrote:
When did this take place?? Had to be in the past 8 months or so. This breaks my heart. I have always noticed GM's changing things in the name of "fairness". But to change debuffs in tests that don't even matter...I feel like they want us to leave. pretty petty.


Edit. Just tested with Asmo, Hemo is the only thing that works.

I feel the only right thing to do is give up Asmodean's eighth circle badge. I thought I earned it. Guess I was wrong....GM's please remove my 8th badge. If this is how you feel then remove it please.
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Re: Second chance at circle test for double KO

Post by Zelkhorn » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:28 pm

Hemo still works. Inferno still works. Shieldstones still work.

Not being able to ezpz hamstring+hemo+hide all the way to 8th isn't the end of the world. :P

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Re: Second chance at circle test for double KO

Post by Sonny_Bill » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:54 am

Daimoth wrote:You know how you mitigate the effects of luck?




.............................................. histia. :- 0
Doesn't really help with luck whiffs mate (I wish I had enough BB that I could untrain a heap, have 600-700 histia and still hit current level content).

FWIW I've got ~400 histia and am currently training rodnus. This is something you might have been aware of if you'd been online at the same time as me within the last 8-12 months. I don't get why you're so bitter - we don't even hunt together, so my training is of no concern to you!

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